https://www.twitch.tv/claudeplayspokemon
Claude Plays Pokemon is a Twitch stream where the AI chatbot Claude attempts to beat Pokemon Red. Once the game is reset, all remaining answers resolve NO, even if the stream continues with a new game.
I am N/Aing anything that is annoying to resolve. If I have to pore over multiple days of twitch VODs to figure out which way an answer resolves, I am not going to bother.
Update 2025-03-25 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): Clarification on valid run criteria:
Only the instance where Claude goes from Mt. Moon to Cerulean City counts as a valid run.
A subsequent entry into Mt. Moon that leads him to exit through the entrance and wander back to Viridian City does not count.
In cases where the second attempt deviates from the stated route, the option will resolve NO.
@JoeandSeth Already resolved, it was just to help the resolution with all these questions haha. Ty anyway
All answers pertaining to Gemini are ill defined. Gemini's setup is very different from Claude's. Gemini gets a large scale map automatically that gets filled in as tiles are explored, so he can see beyond the current screen. This is an external input, not something Gemini makes by itself.
This is a huge advantage, and makes the two experiments incomparable.
Gemini also gets a tile-by-tile definition of each tile, so it can see cuttable trees for example. It doesn't have to understand the images.
@Mqrius Does anyone care that Gemini is cheating? I can resolve the answers N/A if people are up in arms about this, inclined to just let its results stand though even though it has an advantage over Claude
@SaviorofPlant I dunno I have no stakes in this. Just saying it's ambiguous what would count or not. Gemini is a few steps to the right on a continuous scale to things like "A human is playing and the AI tells the human what to do" or vice versa.
This is more of a problem for an answer like this ("another AI model surpasses Claude (gym badges)"), which is about any AI model. Less of a problem with an answer like "Gemini advances further (overall; not instantaneously) than Claude at any point", where we can assume it's about the GeminiPlaysPokemon stream no matter its advantages (but it would still be better if that was explicitly stated!).
@Mqrius I made it just to capture if progress will be faster with a different model/setup. Claude is also “cheating” by having direct access to some of the memory and pathing tools. It seems unlikely right now that we’ll see two models with the exact same setup, token usage rate, etc. in a controlled experiment even though that would be more interesting.
I would contend that any setup where the decisions are not made based on input and output from a statistical model should not count (I.e. a custom traditional video game AI with a series of if statements and predefined algorithms coded in). The rest is going to be subjective matters of degree and not kind until someone runs a model which can only see the actual screen and only press specific buttons more closely analogous to an actual human interacting with a gameboy.
@No_uh i realized i didn't include the screenshot. i think 34 to 1 is the best ive ever come out on a bet here
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@JoeandSeth I'm pretty sure this Claude has only made it through Mt. Moon to Cerulean once. The second time he entered Mt. Moon after Cerulean (~80 hours ago), he exited through the entrance and wandered back to Viridian City, which means this option resolves NO. Someone correct me if this is wrong.
@SaviorofPlant shouldn't resolve NO, yet, unless this was always going to resolve no, since Claude can't go back in time? Thought this was "he traverses Mt Moon, from Pewter to Cerulean, faster than the first time, at any point in the remainder of the run"
@JoeandSeth but I'll admit to only seeing him in Moon a few times (like rn) but not watching continuously to see which way he had left.
@JoeandSeth This is a good point, phrasing of the answer implies it doesn't matter whether it's his second or fourth attempt. But I'm struggling to qualify what counts as a "re-entry", as Attempt 1's 69 hours includes some time wandering around Route 3 and Route 4. Should going back to Pewter and then going back to Mt. Moon counts as a "re-entry" but going back to Route 3 not count? Could also interpret it as "time of return to Cerulean" - "time of first mt. moon entry after last reaching Cerulean". And technically Claude could leave Mt. Moon through the entrance then take Diglett Cave to Cerulean, does that count as an escape?
Tempted to N/A this option, my phrasing was atrocious
@JoeandSeth 31 hours since most recent entry after Pewter, 109 hours since first entry after Diglett Cave. Can resolve YES based on former value since it seems like most traders interpreted it that way, unless anyone has any complaints